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« on: May 04, 2009, 05:45:24 PM »

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i was wondering the pros and cons of a heavier hammers or the idea of hammer weight tuning.

i made some brass hammer weights to attach to my halfblock hammer via the cocking rod hole.  they are varying thickness/weights, and can be stacked to vary the overall hammer weight.  i have yet to chrono the hammer in a gun.  please discuss.




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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2009, 07:04:27 PM »

hahahahahahah, we've been doing the same thing
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2009, 07:08:05 PM »

Damn you. Letting my secret out ... Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2009, 07:16:17 PM »

so any tips?
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2009, 07:21:12 PM »

Pmed you  Grin

This is one of the secret arts of halfblock mastery Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2009, 07:26:44 PM »

hiya, hippo swings its belly
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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2009, 07:30:57 PM »

huh?
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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2009, 07:49:54 PM »

secret arts of halfblock mastery

replace halfblock with Kung-fu
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2009, 08:01:19 PM »

i shall with my machinist style.
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2009, 11:09:41 PM »

that looks like a really good idea. I was just gonna cut the cocking rod down and screw it in to add a little weight. but this looks like it would add even more.
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2009, 02:17:57 AM »

Damn you!!!
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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2009, 06:38:46 PM »

DRG you gotta stop thinking outloud online, everyone has the same idea when you do

unlike me, no one knows what im thinking, thats why im dangerous
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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2009, 08:12:56 PM »

how about this



Calculated weights (using SST Lug)
Brass = 66.29 g
Copper = 68.23 g
SST = 59.80 g
Tungsten = 151.44 g

ill try brass on friday if im not too lazy.
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« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2009, 01:17:39 AM »

the tungsten freeflow hammer was 74.2 and it kinda sucked, the weight was too much, kick and feel

felt sloppy


instead of hammer i would prefer working on valve
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« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2009, 01:32:26 AM »

Seems like a good solution to get back the weight of the cocking rod. My only concern would be any potential binding of the spring in the narrow channel cut in the back. That could potentially lead to inconsistency, though brass would mitigate this to some extent. What is that center hole in the middle of the hammer, perpendicular to the lug hole? How would you machine that?

Note that these are halfblock hammers only as they do not have a provision for a cocking rod, so they will not weigh significantly more than a stock hammer + stock cocking rod (whereas a freeflow hammer was nearly 30 grams heavier than a stock hammer).

Any thought as to how brass holds up over time, particularly when used this way with a slot and direct cocking off of the bolt pin? I would think the back of the slot might get deformed fairly quickly, and I know later Phat hammers used stainless plates on the face, ostensibly to prevent wear from the valve stem.

I swear I saw a design like this with a steel set screw at the back of the slot to take the impact from the pin ... who was it that did that? was it you koa?
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