Thanks drg! Sweet, I work like 10 min from palmers I can pick one up today or tomorrow. I know what your saying about those springs, my buddy has a s5 and its nice. And I think I got my head wrapped around the low pressure. You lower the pressure, get a soft valve spring and its the volume of air that gets the shot off. I think that means you need to keep a stronger main spring to open the valve long enough to get enough air to get the right fps. Thanks for putting up with a the Q's